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- even when installments are up to date.
"Wow!!!", I said when I first encountered this scenario. "You
mean to tell me that the bank is demanding the car back and you haven't
missed a payment."
"That's right" the distraught woman cried on the other end of the phone.
"I never missed a payment with the Scotiabank and I have made all my payments
on time for nearly two years now. They want me to bring it to the dealer
or they will come and get it. What am I going to do? I need this car for
work! It's all I have in the world. I'll lose my job. What are they trying
to do to me?"
I felt really bad for the lady, but I wasn't shocked that the bank could
do this. What shocked me was the fact that they did do this. I had known
for a long time that the banks have the right to seize a car even when
all the payments are current, but this was the first time that I had heard
of any bank exercising that right, especially where so many payments had
been made.
Just so you know how this could happen to you I suggest you take out
your loan agreement with the bank and read carefully down the very small
print at the back of the contract. There you will probably find a paragraph
that says something to the effect of ….. the Bank
can require you to pay at once the total balance due …. If you become insolvent
or bankrupt….
This woman was not bankrupt. She was insolvent however, as she had filed
a Consumer Proposal (that's a legal process that allows you, the Consumer,
to make an offer, or Proposal, to your creditors to reduce the amount of
your debts; extend the time you have to pay off the debt, or offer some
combination of both).
On behalf of this lady I called the Scotiabank Customer Service Division
and was rebuffed by a gentleman who professed to be Senior Management (I
am withholding the names to protect the privacy of the lady).
He told me that as far as they were concerned there was no difference
between a Bankruptcy and a Consumer Proposal.
I discussed the differences between Bankruptcy and a Consumer Proposal
with him, and I explained in some detail that now that the lady's monthly
payments to her unsecured creditors had been reduced to a manageable amount,
her payment to the bank for the car was more secure than ever.
His response was "No, we don't care" he said, "she might fail to maintain
her new agreement in the Consumer Proposal and end up Bankrupt. By that
time the car might be damaged or something. We are cutting our losses and
taking the car and selling it and then we will be billing her for the shortfall".
I called Dave Goldhawk, at Goldhawk Fights Back. The lady who called
me back said that not enough of these types of situations occur so it would
not create enough attention and therefore they would not be interested
in the case.
I approached our lawyers and was told that the chances of winning a lawsuit
against the bank were less than 50 / 50. After all, the clause was in the
loan agreement, she signed it, and the bank had every right to exercise
it. My argument was that the lady had been paying on the car and therefore
she had built up equity in the vehicle also. She had a right therefore
to secure her interest in the vehicle as well as the Bank. Good argument
or not, the case was cost prohibitive. The cost quoted for a case like
this was in excess of $25,000.00. We were lost as to what to do, so we
waited.
True to their word the bank scooped the car. The only saving grace was
that we managed to get her into another car right away at a similar monthly
payment.
I'm not really knocking the Scotiabank for what it did … oh hells bells…
Yes I am!!! I was very disappointed that something could not have been
worked out to allow the lady to keep the car she knew and paid for in priority
to everything else.
I do want you however, as a consumer, to be more aware of what you are
signing. Please, take the time needed to read the small print. Ask your
representative what policies are being enforced and by whom. If something
goes wrong or you find yourself in financial difficulty, what are your
options and where do you turn?
It's a competitive world out there. It's up to you to protect yourself
and get the best deal going.
Think Thrifty.
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